Ballybunion, Hollymount, Listowel Then and Now and haymaking in Bromore

The Fisherman's view

A Ballybunion vista as captured by Mike Enright, sea angler.

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Hollymount Again

Do you remember this from last week? I thought it was a fairly long shot that anyone would know any of these sisters. How wrong I was.
I got the following email from Kay Caball;

"...I know who wrote that book about the Hollymount Centenary. She was Sr. Brigid Moloney from Lyreacrompane a first cousin of my fathers'.  She and her sister Bessie joined this order and they spent all their working lives in Letchworth.  A number of other young girls from the same area joined the order also.  I know that Mary Rose Gleeson from Lyreacrompane joined and I notice the name Geaney on the photo.  This branch of the Moloney were cousins of the Geaneys (from Castleisland) so I presume Eilish Geaney  was another postulant as they were called then.
Re Brigid, when she retired,  came back to the Irish house - Moore Abbey  in Monasterevin which had previously been the home of John McCormack and we visited her there. As far as I know, she was instrumental in  establishing  the Gerard Manley Hopkins Summer School there, it is now called the Gerard Manley Hopkins International Literary Festival now and takes place in Newbridge College. She died in 2010, as far as I know her sister Bessie is still alive in one of their UK homes.
She had written a number of articles for the Lyreacrompane Journal over the years with great reminisces of her youth there.  

MOLONEY Sr. Brigid - December 26, 2010 (peacefully) at Moore Abbey Convent Monasterevin and of Kerry. Deeply regretted by her loving sister Bessie (Sr. Elizabeth), her community of Sisters of Charity of Jesus and Mary, the Moloney, Carey, and Nolan families and many friends. May she rest in peace. Requiem Mass today (Tuesday) December 28, at 12 noon in The Convent Chapel, burial afterwards at St Evin's Cemetery, Monasterevin   [Irish Times 28 Dec 2010]."

Another source informs me that there were at least two Listowel girls in that convent. Eleanor Stokes of Charles Street and Joan O'Connell joined that order and went to Hollymount. Could they be the "aspirants" in the photograph?

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Post truce claims for compensation

Find Your Kerry Ancestors has this to say about post civil war Ireland.

County Kerry Claims for compensation for loss of or damage to property that occurred as a result of military action between July 1921 and March 1923, under the Damage to Property (Compensation) Act, 1923 are now available  at the National Archives.   I have been going through them and publish here a selection to give you a flavour of life post the Civil War

Nothing was sacred - heifers, cars, boats, motorcyles, suits (6), food, alcohol, 'drapery goods' - you name it.  While the major portion of the blame is attributed to the 'Irregulars', the National Army were blamed for an amount of damage also, and the more discreet applicant blamed 'unknown persons'.

Here are a few examples;

Claims for compensation for loss of or damage to property that occurred as a result of military action between July 1921 and March 1923, under the Damage to Property (Compensation) Act, 1923

Title	John McKenna, Market Street, Listowel, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/11
Date	Jan 1923-Jan 1927
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	Petrol, hardware goods and foodstuffs commandeered at Listowel by Irregular forces on various dates from 29 April to 3 August 1922.

Title	Jerry Galvin, William Street, Listowel, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/13
Date	Jan 1923- Jan 1927
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	One Ford motor car commandeered at Listowel by Irregular forces on 13 July 1922

Title	Timothy O'Carroll, Ballyhennessy, Lixnaw, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/12
Date	Dec 1922-[?1926]
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	One Ridge Whitworth motorcycle commandeered at Listowel by Irregular forces on 3/4 July 1922

Title	Hannah Dromey, Cahirciveen, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/16
Date	Feb 1923-[?1926]
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	One motor cycle and one push bike commandeered at Cahirciveen by IRA [Irish Republican Army] on 12 August 1921.
Extent	1 file

Title	John C Duffy, Green View Terrace, Tralee, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/27
Date	Dec 1922-Nov 1926
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	One Ford motor car seized and taken away at Edward Street, Tralee, by unknown men on 6 August 1921

Title	John Fitzgerald, Strand Street, Tralee, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/31
Date	Dec 1922- Feb 1927
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	One motor car seized and taken away at Tralee by unknown persons on 19 July 1922.
Title	Ambrose Deenihan, creamery manager, Tonreagh, Ballyheigue, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/40
Date	Dec 1922-Jan 1927
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	One motor cycle, side car and accessories taken from claimant's residence at Tonreagh by armed men on 7 July 1922; file states claimant subsequently found the vehicle badly damaged at Ballymullen Barracks, County Kerry.

Title	Patrick Barrett, Pembroke Street, Tralee, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/54
Date	Jan 1923-[?1926]
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	Damage to claimant's property and articles while occupied by National troops at Pembroke Street, Tralee, in August 1922
Title	Hannah O'Donnell, Lohercannon House, Tralee, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/46
Date	Dec 1922- Jan 1927
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	One Triumph motor cycle taken by Irregular forces at 'Glenview', Ballyard, Tralee, County Kerry, on 17 July 1922
Title	Captain Jack F Shea, Glenbeigh, County Kerry.
Reference	FIN/COMP/2/8/21
Date	Feb 1923-Nov 1926
Creator	Department of Finance
	Administrative History/Biography Past responsibilities of the Department of Finance have included fiscal, budgetary and economic policy; taxation (from 1923); the preparation and auditing of the national accounts and the annual budget, the collection of revenue and expenditure by government agencies, exchequer accounts and payrolls; the management of the Civil Service including recruitment, staffing, establishment, promotion, remuneration and conditions, pensions, conciliation and arbitration; the preparation and examination of Bills; economic forecasting, planning and development (from 1959); European Union policy co-ordination and the European Union budget and funds. It was allocated responsibility in January and April 1922 for the control of a wide number of agencies taken over from the previous administration and is currently directly responsible for overseeing the administration of the Revenue Commissioners, the Office of Public Works, the Civil Service Commission, the Valuation Office, the Ordnance Survey, the State Laboratory and the Office of the Ombudsman and Information Commissioner. The initial official designation of the Department under the Provisional Government (1922) was ´Finance and General´, but the title never seems to have been used. Before April 1922, the non-official titles employed were ‘Treasury’ or ‘Ministry of Finance’ [or Aireacht Airgid in Irish]. From 1 April 1922 by order of the Executive Council [the Cabinet], its official title became the ‘Ministry of Finance’. The term ´Treasury´ persisted less formally, and references to ´Finance Department´ also occur in Executive Council minutes. Official titles of offices were not formally settled until the Ministers and Secretaries Act 1924, when the title the Department of Finance [or An Roinn Airgid in Irish] was established. The Department can also trace part of its provenance to the Dáil Éireann Department of Finance.
Scope and Content	Apartments and food forcibly supplied to Irregular forces at Glenbeigh from 5 July 1922 to 21 January 1923; drapery goods and alcohol commandeered at Keelnabrack, Glenbeigh, County Kerry, by Irregular forces on 24 February 1923; cattle commandeered at Lower Keelnabrack, Glenbeigh, County Kerry, by Irregular forces commissariat on 8 October 1921.  <<<<<<<<<<

Then and Now

Telephone exchange

Pierse and Fitzgibbon

Some places are much changed, some just a little

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Victorian post box

I don't think that there are any post boxes from this era in Listowel. I spotted this one on my travels in East Ferry, Co. Cork.

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Hay and Tae in Bromore

They had a great haymaking event in Bromore recently. An old fashioned meitheal gathered to help Mike save his hay and they enjoyed tea and confectionery in the meadow. It's the first time I've seen hay piped home. What a setting for a day in the meadow!

They also serve who only stand and wait

the meitheal at Bromore August 2014

some fine wynnds

making a wynnd to the accompanyment of the bagpipe

(these and more photos Bromore Cliff Walk)


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Success at the Dublin Horse Show

This is my brother, Pat, and my niece/ goddaughter, Elizabeth in the RDS with Mr. Riordan, their very special horse. Mr Riordan was bred by a man with a great eye for a horse. This man is Mr. Riordan, uncle of Elizabeth's husband, who was, unfortunately, not well enough to travel to Dublin. He was well represented by a huge contingent of the Ahern and Riordan clans.

You saw the horse here on listowelconnection when he won his first show at The Kingdom County Fair in Tralee. He went on to win many more rosettes after that on his campaign for Dublin. Qualifying for Dublin was the aim. Having hit that goal, a top 5 finish in his class was the next target. He achieved that yesterday with a magnificent display which saw him placed fourth. Much credit is, of course, due to his trainer and rider, Ann O'Grady who presented him in tip top form.

Where to now?
The sales ring, I'm afraid. My connections have taken him as far as they can go. He has huge potential and will go on to great things. My horse mad clan have truly enjoyed the adventure so far.